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Re: new toy

Posted: 20 Oct 2021 02:18
by lemans
Yes, rather noisy. The aim is to make it street-legal. So the tires will have to be replaced as these are very old. And the exhaust system will be replaced/modified. at the moment it is a Valentini two in one. Then have the bike checked by the RDW for dutch plates.

The engine starts but not easily, all electrics work.

Re: new toy

Posted: 02 Nov 2021 15:52
by MickeyMoto
The vehicle test contains a decibel test? I wish it was done over here. The MoT tester just has to be reasonably satisfied the noise is within limits. A deaf tester must do all the Hardly Ablesons!

As the regulations aren't retrospectively applied, it would be a nightmare for the tester. Bad enough them knowing if indicators are a necessity instead of far superior hand signals!

Re: new toy

Posted: 02 Nov 2021 18:45
by lemans
well, I'm not sure. however I've to look into it. at least the bike must comply with the noise-regulation at the time of first admission. but I do not know what the admitted noiselevel in the '80 is. and the valentini has a healthy roar.

motorcycle generated noise has been getting more and more political attention.

Re: new toy

Posted: 02 Nov 2021 19:00
by MickeyMoto
lemans wrote: 02 Nov 2021 18:45
motorcycle generated noise has been getting more and more political attention.
Yes, and that creates huge problems for our continued use of motorcycles.

Re: new toy

Posted: 03 Nov 2021 06:05
by Ming
The problem with most noise is caused by the eejits who think aftermarket pipes and bouncing off rev limiters in urban areas is cool.

Noise

Posted: 03 Nov 2021 09:44
by lemans
ould it be possible to move the noise to the general topic section?

Re: Noise

Posted: 03 Nov 2021 14:26
by morini_tom
Done!

Re: Noise

Posted: 03 Nov 2021 20:06
by lemans
what are "eejits"

I plead guilty to riding a BSA twin with megatons fitted. ten miles from home my wife would start the tea-kettle. but that was 30 odd years ago. nowadays I stick to the factory supplied exhaust as: ( in no specific order)
1. I'm riding with earplugs.
2. the noise doesn't add to the experience (anymore)
3. I don't like the Harley-group impersonating a DC3 airdrop squadron

however, there's a guy with a big single riding the local bypass at 4 oçlock on a saturdaynight (friday or sunday) which makes in my opinion a very sweet sound. probably on his way to his girlfriend, always full blast, very enjoyable.

Re: Noise

Posted: 03 Nov 2021 22:50
by MickeyMoto
Who are eejits!

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... lish/eejit

I am so conflicted on noise. Love it, but hate it when 'eejits' are bouncing valves along the coast road at night! Particularly horrible in a National Park!

My fear is legislation leading to bans on certain roads as has happened in, I think, Germany.

Re: Noise

Posted: 03 Nov 2021 23:11
by lemans
Some roads in Germany (Eiffel) have already been closed
If you are controlled, checked by the police and you have a non-standard (eingetragen) exhaust, you can leave your bike and collect it later by trailer.
In Austria some roads are closed for specific types of motorcycles due to noise emmissions.

Re: Noise

Posted: 06 Dec 2021 18:25
by 72degrees
MickeyMoto wrote: 03 Nov 2021 22:50 Who are eejits!

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... lish/eejit

I am so conflicted on noise. Love it, but hate it when 'eejits' are bouncing valves along the coast road at night! Particularly horrible in a National Park!

My fear is legislation leading to bans on certain roads as has happened in, I think, Germany.
Ahem. A former member of the Institute of Acoustics writes.

What noise, annoys an oyster?

Noise = unwanted sound. One man's music is another man's noise. A DBD34 on full chat on a summers day across a field of ripening corn - lovely. The same machine revving up outside your house at 6am in the morning less so.

Attitudinal aspects of the aversiveness of noise - discuss.

When I did a personal import of the Voxan 1000 it had to have a MSVA. This included a noise test even though the silencers were 'E marked' - oh what fun I had.

Re: Noise

Posted: 06 Dec 2021 19:06
by MickeyMoto
Does a tree make a noise when it falls if there is nobody around to listen?

Re: Noise

Posted: 06 Dec 2021 19:08
by 72degrees
MickeyMoto wrote: 06 Dec 2021 19:06 Does a tree make a noise when it falls if there is nobody around to listen?
"Nobody knows!"

Re: Noise

Posted: 07 Dec 2021 06:33
by Ming
In space,no one can hear you scream. But you all know that THIS IS SHOUTING!