post-Brexit import to the UK from the EU

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post-Brexit import to the UK from the EU

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pre-Brexit was easy, you could just offer the bike to the DLV with EU papers and they had to register it in the UK without modifications.

How is the post-Brexit import of a EU motorcycle? I have a chap from the UK that is interested in my Ducati SportClassic but is very worried that it will be a lot of work getting a UK title for it... anybody recently import a EU bike into the UK and can tell me what the current procedure is?
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I don't know what the DLV does, but expect a lot of costs for customs clearing on the EU-side and than on the UK-side as well... I sold a 3 1/2 Sport to the UK last year and including transport we were already over 1100 euro's...
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Hi all,

Its easy if you follow the correct procedures.
The procedure changed on 1st November 2022
This is what I know from my friend who just did this.

Now the UK person has to get (that means pay) a UK registered shipping agent to make the NOVA (Notification of Vehicle Arrival) online with HMRC(His Majesty's Revenue and Customs) and pay the VAT (duty)
The duty is 5% on historic vehicles (30 years)

Once the NOVA declaration is made HMRC issue the NOVA number, which will be required by the DVLA (Driver Vehicle Licensing Agency) to prove that the duty has been paid. DVLA will not issue the registration without it for vehicles imported since 2013.

The UK purchaser (or Courier) can bring the vehicle into the UK themselves by Van or trailer, and they have some time to make the NOVA declaration. I don't recall the actual time allowed but since the vehicle can't be registered without the NOVA its in the importers interest to declare the NOVA.

https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-i ... lling-hmrc
This is wrong information, private individual cannot send the NOVA declaration by email since 01/11/2022

Since this is UK government information its likely wrong or might have changed so best to ask HMRC directly for advice.

Once the vehicle has the NOVA the vehicle can be registered, meaning issued with a license plate.

The DVLA require Certificate of Conformity, which usually can't be obtained for historic vehicles. In that case it is common for a dating authority to issue a letter confirming date of manufacture. The dating authority could be the custodian of the records of former companies, or in the case of many vehicles the marque specialist of the one make club or VMCC. For Moto Morini the Morini Riders Club can provide dating certificate for the historic Moto Morinis (1948-1993) this will be accepted by the DVLA. This service is free of charge for club members.
The DVLA may accept EU papers as proof of date of 1st registration/manufacture
Its critical that the NOVA when declared uses the correct VIN or chassis number and this must match the registration application.

Hope that helps
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Mark,

If under 40 years old, does the bike need an MoT and the Vehicle Excise Duty paying before a registration document is issued?

When I registered my Sport the MoT man made an error on the certificate with the frame number. As it did not match the NOVA certificate I had to get the MoT done again.
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Hi Mike
As far as we (MRC) know
Yes MOT needed before registration if under 40 years. The declared date of manufacture also comes into play e.g. 1983 is taken by the DVLA as 31/12/1983

Even If over 40 years then MOT or inspection may still be needed.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -time-v555

Historic vehicles (30+) pay VAT at 5% and VED but there is no VED to pay for 40+, but obviously you have to pay for the registration
Also an as I found to my cost recently the vehicle has to be insured and you have to get insured on the VIN.
This should be ok for old/used/historic vehicles but for a new vehicle I was unable to find an insurer who would do it.

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thanks for the info so far. The bike is a 2006 Ducati GT so it is no historic vehicle. How much VAT has to be paid for modern vehicles?
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Hello,

Try this...

https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-i ... t-and-duty

There is a document somewhere with the duty to be paid, not sure but I thought it was set at zero for EU. Maybe get the guy here to call the helpline contained in this link.

https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-i ... lling-hmrc
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mbmm350s wrote: 05 Jan 2023 16:46
Also an as I found to my cost recently the vehicle has to be insured and you have to get insured on the VIN.
This should be ok for old/used/historic vehicles but for a new vehicle I was unable to find an insurer who would do it.

Mark
When brought the Voxan in to the UK in 2006 it had to have a MSVA test as Voxan couldn't provide a CoC even though from the EU. It was 6 years old on the face of it (first French registration - by the Issoire works themselves), but because under 6000 miles on the odometer, UK Customs and Excise treated it as 'new' -so VAT to be paid.

I rode it to and from the MSVA and an MoT test (without a number plate) insured by Carole Nash on the VIN. Perhaps that's because it was only theoretically new. The bad news was that as they had no idea what it was, they saw 1000cc and treated it like a GSXR1000 Suzuki, despite it having half the number of cylinders and far less (EU 100HP agreement) power.

I wouldn't be surprised that insurers are less accommodating these days.
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To clarify for our friends abroad!

There are three different potential taxes to be paid.

1. import duty. This is is zero rated for used vehicles imported from the Eu
2. VAT. This is variable depending on the vehicle age. 20% for the vehicle if under 30 years. VAT is calculated from the purchase cost*.
3. Vehicle Excise duty (road tax) 40 years+ are exempt , as well as the first registration fee.

*Documents supporting the cost should be provided, receipts etc or it will be assessed.

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Thanks for all the info, including the helpfull links my buyer is informing to make a decision on buying
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