My bike is an 06 with 1200 miles on the clock. I have trough Road&Race Peformance at Verwood ordered a Power commander and rolling road time.
I will decat my pipe or if i can get a decat exhaust buy one.
All being well in 3-4 weeks it will be done. I will post my results and findings video link if I can here. I have spent many hours on this forum researching what I can and fed this to R&R. Whilst with them it makes sense to use the time wisely and fine tune my suspension settings.
The power commander is coming from the states.
Happy Days
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while your here daveh , how did you dismantle the stepper motor from the throttle bodies.
On the subject of decat, what is to stop you from cutting a slot letterbox out of the back of the cat "bulge" and then remove the cat and reweld the flap back on.
I realise that means there is a small mini expansion chamber left but i know this was done on and mz1000 and it seemed to have no after effects.
The bonus would be just a small charge to get someone to reweld if not competent yourself. To cut the stainless you use a dedicated stainless cutting disc which is ultra thin (about 1mm) and only few pounds from toolstation.com to fit a small angle grinder.
If the cut out was out of sight the the old bill would be none the wiser as the can would still have a eu stamp on it.
The Dyno jet kit comes with the parts to bypass the closed loop system. Ive just chased its progress parts are not in as yet they are chasing their suppliers dynojet uk who are chasing the states.
Whilst my bikes there, they will quote me to decat my pipe. At present I may have to dig deep or postpone the works as my rear tyre punctured see other post!
Rich
Well thanks to all the posts, i have changed direction. my bike needs a race ecu before moving forward. Considering the potential spend will double and the poxy power commander is still not in. This has forced me to box more clever.
Throwing money at it is wrong. Race ECU's are like rocking horse poo too. So im investigating getting my ecu professionaly remapped, which will remove that closed loop cxXp. Restore correct fuling below 3k rpm.
The most importaant part to this it will put a smile back on my face.
Dave,
Thank you.
I may PM you for some help. Jean Paul has just replied too. The lambda is now disconnected (unplugged), so I have the warning light on the dash, it runs loads better though. Im still getting the Ducati software.
My bikes booked in to BSD Racing they use a Rexxen base map flash my ECU and will spend some time as its their first Corsaro adjusting this base map. Its booked for the 16th and 17th of July. reasonable price too. Reading everything I can it looks like a good direction to go in.
Im trying to source a well priced Termignoni front decat pipe Ebay France £600 ish, is the best so far Ohhh that makes me suck air in through my teeth.
Rich
Well I have the software thats all thus far.
Yes as I understand it will talk to the ECU, providing you have a cable a laptop and an unlocking license code supplied from Jean Paul. I can only give you links no hard facts at present. This is my email from Jean Paul the software writer.
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hi
all is explained here
you need to post 2 messages to access this area http://ducatidiag.xooit.com/t1964-FAQ-H ... writer.htm
Hi All,
I am at BSD today finally, ive waited ages to get here, it has been like waiting for Christmas to come when you were a small boy. Im very excited by all of this....
Reasons why, my bike runs like a bag of Horse Poo?
The stock ECU with Terminogini end cans, can not get the fueling right, it cuts out, is very snatchy under 3k rpm its erratic I bought it having these pipes fitted, so in essence I caused the problem, how ever the bike shop could have told me straight. Im not angry about this bit. Between me and the bike shop its taken a while to get to the bottom of this.
My Solution, reprogram my ECU with specialist software on a rolling road. I decided to go to BSD Racing in Peterborough.
Why? The Morini factory want 607 Euros for a race ECU after which the bike will need a dyno run or setting up I will easily spend 1000 pounds on this in total, why BSD, they want a third of that price, give the impression they are very experienced and they dyno the bikes for all the magazines, Mark has not remapped a Moto Morini Corsaro though, but gives himself plenty of time to get it right.Travelling up last night from Southampton to Peterborough 3 1/2 hours I think, nice ride no traffic at all. I am not chasing BHP or have I changed the stock down pipes so my cats still there!
The processes
BSD Racing put the bike on a dyno, warm it up and see what’s what before doing anything.
First Dyno Run
In an 8-10ft square room the bike sits on a dyno all very technical.
The bike makes 129BHP at the rear wheel and 82lbft of torque. Everything vibrates including my organs. I loved every minute of it. I have pictures’ and videos of this I will upload them when I can. Video not the best as I did not want to stand to close and ended up trying to get a good angle putting my phone next to a wall and guessing where it pointed. The cat glows at one point. Mark of BSD comments after wards that at tick over it is over fuelling loads.
My base map gets over laid with changes from their specialist software, small adjustments are made then downloaded again to my ECU its then run once more.
After 9 runs it sounds totally different (Im not allowed in during this bit) im sat in reception reading tons of bike mag’s. Even in the closed off Dyno room, you can not hold a conversation in reception, She’s loud alright. The noise is very different a real roar and silky smooth with it. Mark comments after he is removing ignition advance too to improve the smoothness of the power delivery.
I really hope to get in again tomorrow; he starts at 6am though too early fro me. Next it will be started from cold and Mark will test ride it.
Rich
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Loving this, and very interested to hear how it ends up.
I'll be taking this route when mine's up to it, although in the limited time I've had with it fuelling was no where near as bad as I thought it might be from some of what I'd read, it is obviously not as good as it could be, it smelt very rich low down even when hot, and definitely started easier when cold.
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Right the results........
Remember im not chasing BHP (yet) just want it running better after ballsing it up fitting sports cans. It is a great bike in any case.
I got there before 9 am my bike was waiting out side. All done says Mark grinning like a cheshire cat! Cmon Mark I say whats it like, just ride it he says, whats the BHP I ask, he replies its on the USB stick. I say I may well decat my pipe, he says bring it back if you do, Mark says its not tuned to make more power, more to correct my issues. Im happy with that.
The bikes cold I saddle up ready for my 3-4hr ride home.
From cold its clear it needs to warm up, which is normal. It warms up quicker.
Jerkyness has gone,
power delivery is less harsh it does'nt feel so fearce.
I notice it revs very freely much more then before, easily getting near the red line with out me even looking at the Rev gauge, before it felt like i was over reving it after 5000 RPM. Now it will hit the limit, before I think the same as I once did, (NOT THAT I HAVE).
So much smoother, It didnt vibrate much anyway, now it vibrates less, less tingle in my feet at motorway speeds. Which is great for many reasons.
Less fuel used, I sit at 65-80 with occasional blasts over taking. The big engine feals like its happier, but how in gods name you pin that throttle holding it there in 6th I dont know.
Did not cut out at all. Increasing my confidence in Traffic. The acceleration is bordering on too much for me. I nearly flip at one point at the lights near home,( ive been in the saddle too long with a detour in all 5 hours, I was very tired, heavy ruck sack on my back and gave it too much right hand) I pottered through the traffic, to the lights, a car accelerates very quickley leaving me in a vunerable position making it, unsafe for me so I open it up, up comes the front off the throttle back brake control and its down again! Im getting beyond my limits on this thing. Any big bike needs respect. I remember Adrian of 3X his words ringing in my ears its got twice as much torq as my 955i he told me. Im thinking of doing some sort of advanced riding course. It is a very powerful machine and needs to be respected.
Trully amazing bike im very happy. Tuning it for performancce and BHP, in my view its not for me at this time, it does not need more horses or torque.
Conclusion, if you alter in some way the fueling or exhauts invest in some Dyno time.
Next for me, dropping the ride height so I can touch the ground better, a custom made shock may be in order, im disucssing this with BSD.
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