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Starter Relay - no longer required!

Posted: 22 Jun 2020 20:28
by MickeyMoto
My starter relay clicks but no current to the starter. If I short the terminals the starter turns the motor. The 'leg' is bit loose.

If anybody has a working one they want to sell, please let me know.

In the meantime, I'll have a peek inside and see what's happening.

Mike.

Re: Starter Relay

Posted: 22 Jun 2020 21:17
by P.I. Staker
Worth stripping down, you may just find it needs a bit of a clean up internally.

Re: Starter Relay

Posted: 23 Jun 2020 09:16
by harrymuffin
Fit a kawasaki one, £8 off ebay, will take the current and robustly made, outlasts the light weight stuff from italy.

Re: Starter Relay

Posted: 23 Jun 2020 09:49
by MickeyMoto
Probably not worth the hassle of stripping it for £8!

I'll do a search.

Thanks,

Mike

Re: Starter Relay

Posted: 23 Jun 2020 20:17
by Steve Brown
The new option is definitely the way to go. The originals are pretty crummy!

Re: Starter Relay

Posted: 23 Jun 2020 20:51
by MickeyMoto
Well Steve, the relay is a Bosch and is good quality. I took it to bits and found the problem. The contacts weren't touching. Out with the relay contact file and a pair of pliers and now contacts square on contact and an air gap between the armature and the relay.

Reassembled and hey presto, engine fires up 'on the button'.

Mike

Re: Starter Relay - no longer required!

Posted: 23 Feb 2021 04:11
by Daddy Dom
The new option is definitely the way to go. The originals are pretty crummy!
I'm with MickeyMoto - Bosch is far from pretty crummy but possibly the one Steve is referencing had already been replaced by something crummy?

After rebuilding my starter-motor and fitting HD shoes, it all worked but then I got the "death-click". I've just cleaned the contacts and bish bash ... :D
DD

Re: Starter Relay - no longer required!

Posted: 23 Feb 2021 11:18
by Steve Brown
I'd agree a Bosch relay shouldn't be crummy. Not sure that's what the originals were though? CEV I would expect-I'll look closer at my stash of removed, tired and emotional originals. They must be worth a fortune on the 100% original restoration market by now.
I've had two of the originals where the contacts welded themselves together which results in a starter motor happily motoring away till you can get to the battery and disconnect it. That's fun! So as a spoil sport I always replace the originals with a Chinese copy of the Japanese types fitted to big V twins. Never had a problem since.
I really must get some starter shoes relined though, it's not as if I don't have time to remove them right now.

Re: Starter Relay - no longer required!

Posted: 23 Feb 2021 15:21
by 3potjohn
My relay welded it’s contacts at my only Cadwell stint. 260 miles each way is my feeble excuse for a single visit even if it is in the land of my father’s, for want of a better description. I had to kick it to make it stop. I stripped one and repaired it which worked for a bit. Another old one is on now. As I always seem to encounter a monsoon on the M5 ( at the well named Bath junction) I am amazed not to see it short out.
John

Re: Starter Relay - no longer required!

Posted: 24 Feb 2021 07:52
by Ming
Steve Brown wrote:... I always replace the originals with a Chinese copy of the Japanese types fitted to big V twins. Never had a problem since...
:lol: :lol: :lol: Very good ar kid - nearly spilt me kipper tie!

Re: Starter Relay - no longer required!

Posted: 25 Feb 2021 11:20
by Steve Brown
Ming wrote:
Steve Brown wrote:... I always replace the originals with a Chinese copy of the Japanese types fitted to big V twins. Never had a problem since...
:lol: :lol: :lol: Very good ar kid - nearly spilt me kipper tie!
:shock: Ming! I was being serious! Honest! (I think you're on the wrong posting here, eh mucker?)

Re: Starter Relay - no longer required!

Posted: 25 Feb 2021 11:21
by Steve Brown
Steve Brown wrote:
Ming wrote:
Steve Brown wrote:... I always replace the originals with a Chinese copy of the Japanese types fitted to big V twins. Never had a problem since...
:lol: :lol: :lol: Very good ar kid - nearly spilt me kipper tie!
:shock: Ming! I was being serious! Honest! (I think you're on the wrong posting here, eh mucker?)


Was it you I told that Noddy Holder joke to then?

Re: Starter Relay - no longer required!

Posted: 26 Feb 2021 08:10
by Ming
No, Steve, just a bit of forum fusion, amalgamating Black Country accents and actually praising Chinese products (with which I have absolutely no problem). All irrelevant to the topic...