Saving the Kanguro from decay

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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Morini047 » 04 Feb 2021 19:34

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for X1 and where to find small bulbs on dashboard?
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Ian_C » 05 Feb 2021 19:48

My Kanguro dashboard lights had 12v 1.2W capless bulbs, type 286. They are available in the UK from motor factors (eg Euro Car Parts) for about £0.50 each, not sure where you would get them in Croatia though. Hope this helps, Ian
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Ming » 06 Feb 2021 08:48

That's the one. T5 12V 1.2W
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Morini047 » 06 Feb 2021 13:46

Thanks, found them
I have a problem with the front headlight for some reason it doesn’t work :?:
thought maybe they are 6v 1.2W like in this diagram http://oldbikehack.blogspot.com/2012/02 ... agram.html
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby 'It must be a .....' » 06 Feb 2021 14:32

Hi, I think the X1 has a similar 6V DC/12V AC system to the early Camels.
If so the headlight has a 12V AC supply and only works when the engine is running. Everything else is powered by the 6V DC circuit and the battery - pilot/parking light, rear/stop light, indicators, horn, instrument lights etc.
There is an original Camel 500 wiring diagram in this thread viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5262&p=27706&hilit=Camel+wiring+diagram#p27706 which might help?
Good luck Ian

PS http://oldbikehack.blogspot.com/2012/02 ... agram.html is a modified version of the above.
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Steve Brown » 06 Feb 2021 18:48

Yes, it's as Ian says. The headlight is a separate circuit and is 12 volt AC powered from the flywheel only when the engine is running.
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Morini047 » 06 Feb 2021 19:54

If I understood correctly, only the headlight bulb is 12 V. All other bulbs are 6 V. This wiring diagram is very similar to my wiring.


another mystery I have alternator with 4 wires 2 yellow 1 red and 1 green in Ians wiring diagram alternator have a 5 wires?
2 yellow wires goes to the rectifier green to transducer and red to the fusebox?

the wiring diagram is blurry so I don't see wire colors
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Steve Brown » 07 Feb 2021 20:58

Morini047 wrote:If I understood correctly, only the headlight bulb is 12 V. All other bulbs are 6 V. This wiring diagram is very similar to my wiring.


another mystery I have alternator with 4 wires 2 yellow 1 red and 1 green in Ians wiring diagram alternator have a 5 wires?
2 yellow wires goes to the rectifier green to transducer and red to the fusebox?

the wiring diagram is blurry so I don't see wire colors


Yes the diagrams are hard to get the colours!
The alternator wiring you describe sounds like the normal road bike, all 12 volt DC lighting. If that was fitted without altering the wiring to the handlebar light switch then the headlight won't work! It's most likely the grey wire going into you handlebar switch is the feed to the Hi/Low beam switch. If you give that grey wire a 12 volt supply that comes live when you switch the other lights on, I think you will get a working headlight. To use the 12 volt alternator you will need also need a full 12 volt rectifier. A pretty universal type is fine here.
Everything else would need 12 volt bulbs too.
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby 'It must be a .....' » 07 Feb 2021 23:02

Hi, in the Camel 500 wiring diagram the wires from the alternator are

Yellow (Giallo) Regulator (G terminal)
Grey (Grigio) Regulator (A termimal, next to the empty one)
Red (Rosso) Fuse box
Green (Verde) Fuse box (Transducer/Ignition circuit)
White (Bianco) Fuse box (Dedicated earth to the Transducer/Ignition circuit) Not all alternators have this White earth wire

The wire colours are the same as on my bike

Ducati Elettrotecnica Regulator 12VAC 6VDC with 5 terminals
A A (Grey)
+B (Brown)
Earth (Blue)
G (Yellow)

I agree with Steve and if the bike has been converted to 12V using another alternator (What regulator do you have?) you will need to connect the Grey wire from the headlight switch (12AC direct) into the 12V DC circuit.
Plus the battery, bulbs etc will have to be 12V

Hope this helps, good luck Ian
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Steve Brown » 08 Feb 2021 15:41

Also worth knowing that 12 volt batteries the same size as the original 6 volt type are available. If they had been available in the early 1980s I'm sure that's what the factory would have used.
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Morini047 » 18 Feb 2021 18:26

Thanks everyone, it turned out that the alternator is from 12V morini so I completely rewired everything all over again.
I am now in the process of making battery box from fiberglass, I put all the photos in one gallery.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8qwYM3qKPB51BmRt9
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby rossguzzi » 19 Feb 2021 02:50

Great work, enjoy ! :D
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Re: Saving the Kanguro from decay

Postby Ming » 19 Feb 2021 08:00

I have always preferred the Kanguro, especially the earlier models. Yours looks to be a great restoration, hope you enjoy riding it.
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