Hi everyone,
New guy here who has just acquired a 1958 Sbarazzino 98. It needs a lot of work doing but I'm sure I will get there in the end. No doubt I will be asking questions along the way. I will try and post a photo as soon as possible.
Best Regards
Andy
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Hi Andy,
welcome to the forum. There should be a few guys being able to give you advice. But, there aren't many Sbarazzino's within our Club.
welcome to the forum. There should be a few guys being able to give you advice. But, there aren't many Sbarazzino's within our Club.
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Photo as promised.
I managed to get the bike running today, after fitting a new battery, but only for about 10 seconds and then it cut out .
Fuel is not a problem so checked the spark plug which is very temperamental and not sparking all the time. I think it could be the HT lead as it is very old, so tomorrow I will look at replacing it with a new one. I tried to have a look at the points but I can not figure how to get them out at the moment
The next problem is the clutch cable has broken and I recon that the clutch has siezed with the bike being stood for over 20 years. Any ideas on where I can find a clutch cable replacement?
Photo as promised.
I managed to get the bike running today, after fitting a new battery, but only for about 10 seconds and then it cut out .
Fuel is not a problem so checked the spark plug which is very temperamental and not sparking all the time. I think it could be the HT lead as it is very old, so tomorrow I will look at replacing it with a new one. I tried to have a look at the points but I can not figure how to get them out at the moment
The next problem is the clutch cable has broken and I recon that the clutch has siezed with the bike being stood for over 20 years. Any ideas on where I can find a clutch cable replacement?
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Venhill > complete cable not avalable but they do have a kit:
https://www.venhill.co.uk/cables-amp-co ... 1-100.html
or take the old cable and go to a place that makes custom cables
http://www.cable-tec.co.uk/Applications ... cables.asp
http://www.carrotcycles.co.uk/custom-made-cables.html
http://slinky-glide.co.uk/
http://www.barnettclutches.com/classic-black.html
https://www.venhill.co.uk/cables-amp-co ... 1-100.html
or take the old cable and go to a place that makes custom cables
http://www.cable-tec.co.uk/Applications ... cables.asp
http://www.carrotcycles.co.uk/custom-made-cables.html
http://slinky-glide.co.uk/
http://www.barnettclutches.com/classic-black.html
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Like TinTin mentioned, normally Venhill has a wide variety of ready made cables, however ready made cables for a 60 year old bike will be difficult to find. Therefore you should make your own clutchcable from a universal cable.
Hope you understand my instructions. If not, I am sure you'll find an instruction on YouTube.
Use a caliper to measure the diameter of the inner cable. Get a universal cable which is longer than the original one.
I would replace the outer cable as well and get one which is lined with teflon (or similar). That way the friction inside the cable is minimal, which is better for your wrist
Normally one end of the inner cable is already fixed with a small "drum". Find out the size of the (permanent) drum on the other side and get one of those as well, and also one which can be
fixed on the inner cable with a screw (temporary drum).
This is a shop (in Dutch), which has all possible inner/outer cables and drums https://www.cable-shop.nl/
(Normally at oldtimer markets you'll find suppliers like this).
To fix the cable properly:
1) new outer cable should be app. same lenght as the original,
2) put the small drum in the clutchlever on the handlebars,
3) route the cable to the other side, the clutch lever on the engine. Avoid sharp bends,
4) pull out the inner cable on the clutch side and put the temporary drum (with a screw) on the inner cable,
5) soon as you have found out the correct lenght of the inner cable, replace the temporary drum with the permanent drum and cut the inner cable about 0,5cm past the inner drum,
6) spread out the individual tiny cables (which make the cable) and solder them into the permanent drum,
7) once cooled off, cut off the rest of the wires.
You're done.
BTW: a teflon lined outer cable should never be lubricated.
Hope you understand my instructions. If not, I am sure you'll find an instruction on YouTube.
Use a caliper to measure the diameter of the inner cable. Get a universal cable which is longer than the original one.
I would replace the outer cable as well and get one which is lined with teflon (or similar). That way the friction inside the cable is minimal, which is better for your wrist
Normally one end of the inner cable is already fixed with a small "drum". Find out the size of the (permanent) drum on the other side and get one of those as well, and also one which can be
fixed on the inner cable with a screw (temporary drum).
This is a shop (in Dutch), which has all possible inner/outer cables and drums https://www.cable-shop.nl/
(Normally at oldtimer markets you'll find suppliers like this).
To fix the cable properly:
1) new outer cable should be app. same lenght as the original,
2) put the small drum in the clutchlever on the handlebars,
3) route the cable to the other side, the clutch lever on the engine. Avoid sharp bends,
4) pull out the inner cable on the clutch side and put the temporary drum (with a screw) on the inner cable,
5) soon as you have found out the correct lenght of the inner cable, replace the temporary drum with the permanent drum and cut the inner cable about 0,5cm past the inner drum,
6) spread out the individual tiny cables (which make the cable) and solder them into the permanent drum,
7) once cooled off, cut off the rest of the wires.
You're done.
BTW: a teflon lined outer cable should never be lubricated.
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Thanks guys for your valuable input, yesterday I ordered a universal clutch kit from Venhills as recommended, and would you believe it, it just arrived in the post as I was typing. I have a new HT lead and spark plug which I also picked up yesterday and will be popping over to the workshop to fit everything.
Fingers crossed I will get the bike running today
Fingers crossed I will get the bike running today
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Good news, she runs and sounds great. Still working on the clutch though, but it's looking good so far.